Cuartin Asked, Why Don't You Keep Track of All Your Travel Expenses for Viewers?


Hey Andy!

( I'm going to send this to you as a question too but wanted the comment to be viewable to the public so otehrscan comment as well.)

Doug here on Maui. In the past I've forwarded info to you when I think it is helpful for you as a means to give back some of the helpful stuff I've learned from you. Hopefully you remember me and i've been some small help here and there.

I have to disagree with your position that people are not interested in budgeting in the manner that you do and would like information about it. i think that quite a few people watch and follow you specifically because you live on $600 a month (plus an additional budget for airfares) and we genuinely aspire to do the same because thats the sort of income we actually have to travel. I find the inconsistent specifics about this (daily regular costs) a genuinely missing piece of the puzzle. I have a pretty good idea of your expense side because if you watch enough of your videos you can piece it together but no specifics (just generalities on the income side --Adsense, consultations, and perhaps donations? Inheritance?) but no specifics on the income side no matter how many videos you watch. ( I have looked deep into the archive -- saw the one you talked about income in length but it was a few years ago when Google was more of a money maker you said). Obviously you make enough to fly around quite a bit so you must be in the 1000-1500+ range in monthly income or your model would not be viable.That would indicate an income of roughly 12,000-17,000 a year. Is that accurate? Can you provide some clarification on this? Rough annual income with a rough breakdown of sources? I think many of us are genuinely curious about your income and expenses and how you are viable. We believe you are viable but how specifically? it makes it more real for us dreaming of doing the same or similar even for just a year or two. Transparency in how you derive your income, the amount of income, and how it sustains you showing real numbers would be immensely helpful and informative. I realize this may be somewhat invasive and thats why you don't do it (and why my question may never get a video) but it begs the question -- do you survive and travel from passive income entirely (I believe you probably do but more transparency here would be helpful) but i understand that you may feel that is invasive. The fact that you are a teacher to many of us i would hope would cause you to reconsider this position for the sake of our education in living a lifestyle similar to yours. I think you would be surprised how similar my aspirations are to emulate your lifestyle and probably many others may want to as well -- whether they actually do it is another matter. I have a passive income of rouglhy $1500 or so a month from a good selling self guided audio tour here in Hawaii so know i am close to being able to do this and am setting out on some month long "training wheels" type forays next year. Thanks for your blog. You are unique and not a sell out thats what we like about you.

Doug / Maui, Hawaii

(Where I live comfortably on $800-$1000 a month)


AlwaysRt

I had a few miscellaneous thoughts on this one.

Reading the title I thought 1)it sounded too much like work (living a budget is one thing but reporting on a budget takes brain capacity and time) and 2)we already know a general budget of $5/day for food and $10/day for lodging ($15 x 30 days = $450/month) bus/taxi fares are normally discussed as they happen, and personal items is toiletries and clothing is different for each individual.

The video had me thinking about standard travel writers usually come in two flavors. Those who write from home based on hearsay, guesses, and fabrications. Those who go to the places they write about but never pay for anything having traded their opinion away for freebies.

The above comment, I admit to being a curious human and wondered about Andy's income - however it is totally irrelevant and none of my business. Irrelevant because if you are staying on say... a $600/month budget and have a $10,600/month income but $10,000 goes to savings/charity/wiping out malaria... then income above the budget is irrelevant.

disclaimer - This is just a comment of some thoughts, I'm not assuming my thoughts are better or worse than anyone else.


Gadget

Yes, I can see how me reporting all my income, and all my expenses would be of benefit to a few. I have tried many many times to keep track of all my expense, and it is truly a spoil the fun of travel experience. It is me becoming a bookkeeper, and accountant, which by far, is not what I like to do, or want to do.

YET, I can see how this would benefit the viewer, or readers.

The percent is very low, most people sadly don't trust anyone, so no matter how clear I am, no matter how honest, open, and correct, they think I fudge the figures.

What is more problematic, and complicated to explain is, the waves of money, that rise and fall. For example, this year, because my father died, I saved radical amounts of money by staying with my mother 3 times, for roughly 2-3 weeks each time. Expenses drop down to 1-2 dollars per day, when I only walk down to dollar general to buy a bag of almonds that I love.

But when I buy a ticket to Europe for 300-400 dollars in total, it changes. And, I also know, that most of you will not travel that much, very few are really going to perpetual travelers, you are going to park it in one location, and not pay for plane fares so much.

Making videos is about me making money on them, and who is asking the question. Cuartin asked this question, and I do not think he is even a member of the Hobo community, 100 percent just a You tube watcher, who wants his question asked for absolute free, not give to me, just answer his questions.

Steve, you are a giver, so different when you ask, you are not a stranger, you are a verified member, a real person, I am not answering a stranger, a person that wants to also be a friend.I know talking to you is profitable.
http://www.hobotraveler.com/hobos/alwaysrt

Kitsune is NOT verified, the first question, but does appear to be very honest, and transparent.
http://www.hobotraveler.com/hobos/kitsune

In the end, there is the mooch factor, and the need for dialog explanations. Unless a person is asking question, quizzing, probing, it looks, or appears like I am could be evading, or just cherry picking my answers. This is why I make just one tape of answers, so you see me stutter, thinking about he answers, not trying to maneuver the answers, so they sound more cogent. I know this is what the normal travel writers do, they find the best words to play with your heads, to appear more valid, but they are not, they just removed the honest stuttering, and mis-spoken words.

I have a program Evaer, that can record both sides of a Skype phone call, but it requires both sides to be aware, both sides to have a good connection, for both sides to be flexible. I am extremely flexible, to a limit.

But, if one of you two, or both want to call, and ask many questions, then you are welcome, and I will record the conversation, and I will publish it.

But do understand a bad month, one in Europe, where it can be more expensive, always balances against a good month, when I live for free, or cheap. I had a free room in Malta for 10 days, because after I arrived, reserved a room, the owner wanted me to live for free, and I made a video to that fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYzwCHfs-6c

Which is, as Steve says, what the normal travel writer does, they live for free, then lie about the place. I only agreed after I looked at the whole Hostel. I am sad to say, yesterday one person requested that I make a gleaming review on Hostelbookers, so what is up with that, you can see they want to make it appear, that everything is perfect. I will make a review, but it will also point out the problems. I would recommend the place, it is fun, and closer than most to places, but I would not recommend going to Malta really, and a bad place to retire, so their are waves of opinions that conflict. The Hostel is fun, but I really do not think Malta should be high on people list of places to go.

ANY VIEWER WHO WANT TO MAKE A 2 WAY RECORDED VIDEO, ASKING ME QUESTIONS IS INVITED TO DO SO, PROVIDING THEY ARE HONEST, TRANSPARENT WITH ME.

I have nothing to hide, but some answers are so convoluted, confusing, it just make viewers ask tons of more questions. And in the end, most are too afraid to travel, so why am I answering a fear based persons questions. If you really, truly want to learn, to really probe my brain, to ask unlimited questions, then come on the Live Abroad Tour, pay the 500 dollars and make the leap.

You can see, I will not be able to avoid your questions, that is the purpose, and to allow you to see other people who live on Lake Atitlan on the cheap. Please know your drinking habits,I often say, those who drink need to double the budgets.

Have fun, live life, but don't get caught up in fear of living, it is about jumping.

Andy Lee Graham, now in Trabzon, Turkey, trying to get the videos to catch up... hehehe

IF you really want to ask question, of course getting verified, and being honest, transparent with me helps, I need friendships, not hecklers from the peanut gallery. I want everyone to let me ask questions, so I can learn about you, and help. I am still offering one hour of talk for people who are verified, with the notice, I am a traveler, not always online as much as some people in the USA.

Wow, that was a long typing... hehehe


Gadget

A reader, viewer about 7 months ago, wanted me to write a book, on how to live my Hobo lifestyle. Maybe, I should try to do so, it would make more money than videos. Google is really a shit, they just keep taking more, and more.

The essential problem is this, I am me, and you are you, I want you all to be you, not me, unless you want to be like me. Making money is entrepreneurial, living like me, is extreme entrepreneurial living, not what everyone can do. But, if you got your 1000 dollars per month income, you can do it easy, at 1500 it is a piece of cake. But so many of you have created such a big jail cage at home, that you need double that, it is not just living abroad, it is cutting the shackles at home, and some of you are extremely caged birds. But, you can, it just will come off in layers, not just one jump, but many jumps.


Gadget

Damn, forgot to say, I changed the amount on the Intro to the blog to 1000, from 500 a couple of weeks ago, not because 500 is not possible, I do it regularly, but because 1000 is more what others can do easy, more plausible for Joe blow traveler. Nomadic Matt wrote something about living on 50 dollars per day, a few of travel writers were laughing, anyone can do that, but he panders to the audience, maneuvers them, a not to be trusted person. And leaves out tons of stuff.

Good questions above, and what is needed.


AlanOak

"Our life is frittered away by detail. An honest man has hardly need to count more than his ten fingers, or in extreme cases he may add his ten toes, and lump the rest. Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity! I say, let your affairs be as two or three, and not a hundred or a thousand instead of a million count half a dozen, and keep your accounts on your thumb nail. In the midst of this chopping sea of civilized life, such are the clouds and storms and quicksands and thousand-and-one items to be allowed for, that a man has to live, if he would not founder and go to the bottom and not make his port at all, by dead reckoning, and he must be a great calculator indeed who succeeds. Simplify, simplify. Instead of three meals a day, if it be necessary eat but one instead of a hundred dishes, five and reduce other things in proportion." — Henry David Thoreau, "Walden"


Gadget

"It would surpass the powers of a well man nowadays to take up his bed and walk, and I should certainly advise a sick one to lay down his bed and run."
Henry David Thoreau, "Walden."

Everyone seems to think my travels is complicated, in reality, it is a life lived simple.


Toos

Wow. You live on 800-1000 per month on Maui? That's awesome.


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