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Money talks, not sure what it says, but it talks.
When I resided in Panajachel and Antigua, mainly I shopped in the market and ate at home, at any rate when I was integrated into local and working ex pat society in Antigua and Pana all the owners and employees of the restaurants knew me, so I never overpayed, never thought about it. Tourism does drive local prices up and all is not
the 'fault' of tourist and traveler from overseas..for example up in Xela in the early 1990s several Spanish schools were established to compete with Antigua, and locals in Xela happily opened their homes for student 'homestay'..room and board, by the week or month, payment of rent and tuition fees per week in advance. Seems local Guatemalan students or workers would move in, renting a room by month, paying the first month, then fudging on the rent for 3 or 4 months before getting evicted. Locals told me 'locals don't or won't pay' (if they can get away with it) So, foreigners came to Xela, paid more by week and paid in advance, on time.
In Antigua on Sundays and Holidays when the 'capitalinos' from nearby Guate City flood into the colonial town, certain lodging places and eateries have 'capatalino' prices ..higher on those days.
In th 1980s we used to go to Mama Rodriguez's comedor on Calle Santander in Pana, sit on the dirt floor and gorge ourselves on Mapache (Racoon), Mama saved our skins more than once during the early 1980s. Another era, another story.
Sadly, travel destinations and traveler crossroads like Antigua and Pana that offer visitors and ex pats all the amenities is bound to be more expensive and the cost of living higher for those locals not even involved in tourist economy. Business is business, money makes the world go round, so once again what can I say but "G-d grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change and courage to change things I can"
In concert with other concerned locals and working ex pats in early 1990s in Antiguam we ran a 'sting operation' on National Police, phony guides, and corrupt hotel-Spanish school operators who were ripping off travelers, left and right, after those involved were caught and prosecuted, or transferred in case of many Police,
the Guatemalan National Tourist Police were introduced in to Antigua and other destinations. This was done quietly, no fanfare. Life goes on in the tropics.
If one does a good deed, I was taught, then brags all ovet town about, this negates the good deed.
Maybe some of you were taught differently.
Seek out perosns honest in their dealings, anywhere, people are far more important than destinations!
There are 3 rates in Vietnam
2: Vietnamese who live in outside of Vietnam
Hard to get around the different rates @ hotels but you can have a local person shop for you for many things. for a few $ Dong of course.
I have to disagree with "all is not the 'fault' of tourist and traveler from overseas" above because I believe in the law of supply and demand and the power of boycotting. If consumers refuse to pay then overpriced items will remain vacant ( as in accommodations ) or unsold ( as with merchandise). Each and every time tourists pay for overpriced products and services they are damaging the lifestyle of the local population by driving up the prices of the cost of living. Granted, a certain segment of the local population prosper but most will experience hardships due to the inflated cost of living.
When I went back to the States in 95 after 7 years in Asia and the Philippines I was AMAZED that Americans were paying U$20,000 to U$40,000 for new cars and vehicles on 6 year installment plans offering ZERO interest ( impossible and obvious that the interest was built-in / included in the price ). The cost of wood framed houses also blew our minds so the recent chain of events didn't surprise us at all so maybe the present generation of young Americans will adapt their goals and lifestyles to the new economic situation in the upcoming 10 years. The the SAME goes for overpaying for anything anywhere.
I find your diehard habits of being frugal a bit too much sometimes but 90 of the time your resistance to spending is RIGHT ON! It takes one to know one we DETEST paying too much for any goods and services.
I live here at the lake, and by seeing the pictures of the boat, i can see right away, this is not a regular boat!
This is a private one. Nicer seat! So this is why locals where paying that price! Especially if it was eastern day!
Usually there is 3 prices, tourist, local, and resident! In any case, i think if you are a regular, it is normal you pay less. Plus most tourist carry bags, bag pack and take the place of other poeple.... plus they want to be dropped on the dock of the hotel, not the public dock. They make us all wait, going from one hotel to the other.
So different service, different price, no?
Has for the coffee ...Guatemala, export all it's coffee. And it is not easy to find good coffee here, has strange has it may be! Plus a professional expresso machine cost around 2.000 dollars, and the process of making coffee is really time consuming! But i am curious, where is the coffee costing 3 dollars in Pana any way?
Has for the pizza, are you talking about the Circus Bar!?
Well this is not just a regular street pizza store, but a restaurant that has the best live music in town, a very good service, decoration and perfect location!
Most tourist think they should get everything dirt cheap because they in a poor country, well,... with peanuts, you get monkeys! And i agree, if you go to the market, cook at home, you can live very cheap here. But if you want imported beers and cheese, well, you got to pay the price!
So when you get a good coffee, enjoy cause it is rare here!, or drink a Nescafe for a dollar! Or come to my house, i'll give you a expresso for free and i'll sing a song for you,... you got option!
I do not care what tourist pay, I care when locals have to pay more because we are here.
San Pedro has this French Press coffee thing, and sells coffee for 6 Quetzals so coffee taste better and cheaper in San Pedro than in Pana.
However, the large super markets in Pana are cheaper and easier than San Pedro.
When locals need to pay more because I am here, I am not happy, when they earn more I am also happy,
I am going to go the market to see if I can buy raw coffee beans.
Nathalie, right, right on!! Excellent post.
I was born in a 'tourist town' up in New England, USA, as a kid spent many summers there with my paternal Grandparents, an old timer from there visiting my Grandmother, once told us about the 'tourists' or 'summer people' complaining about the high summer rents...says he told all of them...."If you can't stand the Wint-ah heah, then don't complain about the summ-ah prices!"
In Virginia my Dad chose to pay more for a house in the university town we moved to, with good public schools, cultural events, than living far cheaper in the industrial town a few miles east where American football and drinking and drag racing on weekends were the only cultural pastimes.
PS the factories and mills now closed in that other town, which has become "gentrified"
In New York City in the early 1980s we saw our rents skyrocket due to the 'yuppie' invasion
Think Lake atitlan is bad..go to Costa Rica!!!!!