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ISSUE:  098
DATE:  November 19, 2002
TITLE:  Hobo TRAVEL TIPS - The Moat - When to stop Traveling?
TIP:  When to stop Traveling?
LOCATION:  Chang Mai Thailand



Hobo TRAVEL TIPS - The Moat - When to stop Traveling?
Issue 98 - November 19, 2002
A Hobo trip around the world. Year 5


         How I feel today..
         Better to read the stories first.
~   HOBO STEW (A Dish of Meat and Vegetables)
        Location of Hobo and opinions
~ (Go this way)
            .Every city needs a moat.
~   TODAY’S TIP - When to stop Traveling?
           Dennis & Scott Bike Around World
~   TODAY’S TIP FROM THE - “Peanut Gallery”
~   HOBO GOSSIP and/or Jaded Remarks


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How I feel today, or a start down
the proverbial travelers path.

“Not everything that can be counted counts
and not everything that counts can be counted.”
Albert Einstein


Better to read the stories first.

Moat around Chang Mai Thailand
Typical Thailand. Enter at own risk. Hehehe


~   HOBO STEW (A Dish of Meat and Vegetables)


I am back in Chang Mai.
Located in the middle top north of Thailand.

I am happy to say.
I have finally come to grips with my mental
and emotional problems I have had in the
last couple of months. I hope the flavor of my
letters can not turn back to my jolly ways.

There are 4 places I usually have my best
1. Hot shower
2. Laying in bed reading.
3. Treadmill or bike at the gym.
4. Walking

These are also the worst places to take notes
and a tape recorder just doubles my work.
What I want is a wristwatch with voice recognition
that will recreated my spoken notes into digital message
and beam them to my computer.
( That was said to stop the people from writing
me to use a tape recorder. Way beyond that.
Tried that 18 years ago.)

OK back to the subject.
Standing in a Hot Shower in Chang Mai
and enjoying it I had my revelation.

I have not had a hot shower
in the last 4-6 months of living in the South
of Thailand. All have been room temperature
or cold. This is normal in tropical climates.

Luckily this computer is close to my shower
so I can come and write it down before I forget

My revelation is that Thailand is not a good
country for me to travel in for long periods of time.
Lots of you probably already noticed this and
I am the last to admit it to myself.

I came here with preconceptions of the countries.
Everyone tells me not do this, but unless I have
never heard of the country and fly by airplane and land by
accident, than this is ridiculous statement
and not possible. We all form opinions and ideas of countries.
Then these preconceived notions convince us to
pay money to go visit.

I was dreaming of beaches and snorkeling
and women in small bikinis. A land of tradition and
values passed down through the centuries.
Romance and love, and a lot of other fantasy.
Where I could meet the woman of my dreams
and live happily ever after, walking down the
beach on my daily walk.

This country is center of tourism for the world.
The playground of tourist.
None of the above. ( A little though )

Paris, France is suppose to be the most visited city
in the world according to something I read
somewhere and am too lazy to go look up.

Everyone wants to avoid tourist but than they
go to the places full of tourist. I do not try to do
this, but I do try to avoid certain types of tourist.
Although on first glance at the beaches, the
indigenous people, and the mountains, and let
me not forget to say it is cheap, it appeared to be
the perfect place for me. But it is full of a certain
class of traveler and tourist I like to avoid.

I will leave it at that. But what that means is
I now know why I am frustrated, and know
how to stop. I have a solution.
I find that most frustration stops when I
stop trying to change the situation.
I cannot change a country.
But I can change countries.

I am not saying you should not visit Thailand.
I am saying that there are time limits.
For me 2 month would have been correct.
6 months is overstaying my mind capacity
for endurance.

Blah blah blah. I can hear some of your
minds starting to rattle and rant.
Relax. I am far from the normal traveler
or tourist, so my problems are unique.
How many travelers stay in a country
for over 2 months.

I am sure you know of lots of people
that have lived in countries for over 2 months
but did they always keep moving like
a nomad or did they park it and teach
English or some other form of drug.

If I stay in one place for over 10 days
I start to get edgy. Someone might say
I live there, and am not a traveler.

OH well. At least I am in a better mood
and I am sure some of you long term
readers are happy to hear that.

I still have to admit that Alex Garland the
writer of “The Beach” is miles ahead of me
in the world or traveler knowledge.
Thanks Alex for giving me humility.

Ever wonder about how a guy like me
writes silly stuff like this. This is my 4
and final version of this part of my letter.
Go here to see the crazy stuff that
led up to this final version.
Enter with caution Very negative.
Laugh with me...

I hate to make plans, or write them
down, because they always change.
But this is for guidance to my madness.

I am going to sit around in the north
of Thailand. Take photos of Indian Hill
people, than cross over very quickly into
Laos, Cambodia and maybe Vietnam.
I think these 3 countries should take me
about 2 weeks. I will return in the future.

I am going to finish writing 1 or 2 books
real fast. Return to the USA to get them
published. I am absolutely broke.
But it is a LOT cheaper to do nothing
here than in the USA. The minimal money
to survive here is about 5 dollars a day.
In the USA it is about 10 dollars a day.
So cheaper to be broke here.

This free newsletter and my free WebPages
with photos and all that are starting to cost
me too much. I have to either earn enough
money to pay for them, or you have to kick
in to help. I have to start over on how to make
money thanks to MasterCard so I am back to
day 1.

Anticipated yearly expenses:
5400 Dollars USA
100 Dollars USA

I need to earn 15 dollars a day
to survive. This pays for room and
board and that biggie. Airfare

I expect by hook or crook to leave the USA
in no more than 60 days. But I will buy
an Around the World Airplane Ticket this time
and start circling the globe.
Should be more exciting.

I was thinking about Henry David Thoreau
and his section on Economy.
I finally realized. The only way to explain
my money situation is to explain it all.
So in the near future. I will write
a tip on how much it cost.

Today Go this way is
on the moat around the city.

Today tip is on the
When you should stop traveling?

Just another day in Paradise!
Be a Hobo, and leave your mark.

X was HERE!

Life is good.

Article written by Andy the
On year 5 of Hobo trip around the world.
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What is a moat?
A deep, wide ditch, usually filled with water,
especially one surrounding a medieval town,
fortress, or castle as a defense

A trip to foreign lands is about adventures.
The first is the real adventure of what you see
and feel, The second in the world that is
created in your mind and dreams.

I am in Chang Mai, Thailand.
A typical Thailand city in many ways.
It is full of tourist and noise.
Cars, horns, and motorbikes.
The hum of acceleration of vehicles.
People walking everywhere.

I wondered in a straight direction down
one of the main corridor. Not really clear
on where I was, or what I would see.
If I continue in a straight path I can
walk for many miles, and return safely
to my Guesthouse. This is how I begin to
explore a new city. I walk in straight lines
North, South, East, and West.

I sometimes walk for great distances
and sometimes just a few blocks.
Its is normal that these excursions end when
the road ends. It can be a river, a dead end street,
the T in the road, a park, or a mountain. There
is always an end to the road. I then return to my
starting point and choose another direction.
No need for a map. But afterwards the map is
easier to understand.
I remember that,
I remember this,
I passed that.

In my walk in Chang Ma the road
came to a unusual ending. I have done
this same type of exploration so many
time in so many countries, that I am
anticipating certain types of endings.
I look down my path.
There is a wall.
At first I thought it was the side of a building.
That would be a normal place to stop.
I stop and stare ahead, trying to decide.
It is time to turn around, or what is happening.
I stand in a daze for a few minutes.
suddenly I realize. There is a hole in
this wall wide enough to drive one car
but there is no road to this hole.
It looks like an entrance, but to where?
I decide is safe. I will not get lost if I walk
straight off the road to this entrance.
I am curious, and confused.
What am I leaving?
What am I entering?

I quickly walk through the gate.
Cross the street to the other side.
There are two women sitting
eating some pineapple.
The are foreigners.
I venture a question,
“What is this entrance?
Is it a gate? Or what is it?”

The two girls are friendly and helpful,
but in the end they admit they
had not noticed. I am hard pressed to understand
but I guess one could ignore a wall 20 meter high
with large wooden gate. I am not sure how
because half the people on the road
or entering and leaving this entrance.

I suppose it is also my instincts.
If you enter a place with door.
They could close the door behind you
and you would be trapped.
I always know how to return or exit
a place, city, or country.

So in some ways this gate is a hazard.
I look around and quickly see that is
not a problem. The wall goes a short
ways and when the wall stops, there
is a canal. But they people of the city
have constructed lot of small bridges
and pathways across the canal.
I am not trapped.

I return to my room.
Rummage through some things
hanging on the floor. I find a map
in my guidebook of the city I see a square
canal that surround the city.
Its a moat!

My mind is ready now for it second journey.
Why does this city have a moat?
What King or Queen, or ruler of this
city decided to protect its people with a moat.
What was it like 100, 500, 1000 years ago?
I went through a gate in present day
Chang Mai, Thailand and entered into
a land of Chang Mai centuries ago.

Moat around Chang Mai Thailand

Just another day in Paradise!
Be a Hobo, and leave your mark.

X was HERE!

Life is good.

Article written by Andy the
On year 5 of Hobo trip around the world.
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That is a nagging question?
I am asked more from other people than
myself, but it is still a question that
maybe deserves an answer?
“Andy, when will you stop traveling?”

My answer vary from to day, and I try
to be creative. My normal answer is to
blame it on a woman by saying,
“I will probably meet some nice woman
and not have a good excuse to leave.”
This will stop my journey, but in reality
I am always asking the woman on day
“Do you like to travel?”

These questions, and answers are
part of what I call the interview.
It is the normal exchange of questions
when I meet a person.
Who are you?
What is your name?
When do you go?
Where did you come from?
What country?
What did you do in your country?
How long do you travel?
When will you STOP?

Almost every person meet
and converse with gives me the
interview, or I give them the interview.
It is an extremely common event.


I received an email the other day from
a person that said,
“It was the loneliness and the constant
repetition of these questions that stop
her in the end.”
She hated to have people ask or
give her the interview.

I stopped in Bangkok at a small
road side food stand. They had a few
tables and such for the pedestrians
to sit and eat. It was a little unique
and quite a cozy corner of the
street with ample shade.
A very comfortable location.

I realized that the woman next
to me is a girl I encountered earlier
in the day, when I had said a sort of
rude comment.
I instantly went into an apology
on the situation.
She was wearing a fish net type
dress, with a Bikini underneath
and walking down Khao San Road.
My comment was,
“That is alluring.”

The statement was a little too personal
and in the code of travelers and tourist.
It is against the rules to notice or
give special attention to strange people.
So when I see an Mohawk haircut, or
a girl with 20 piercing of her body,
or purple hair, or dreads and many variation
of dress I am suppose to pretend it is
all completely normal.
And the truth is for travelers.
It is normal to dress like a clown.

OK this woman did not deserve me
embarrassing her, and I should not have
broken the rules. But I just said what
came to my mind, before I thought.

She told me she went home and changed.
I said,
“I am sorry, I did not mean to embarrass you.”
Hmmm thinking to myself.
Was that true or untrue?

This is a chance encounter,
and in someway an interview.
I start on to discus the normal questions
and she stops me.
“Do we have to do this?
When, who, where, why you travel?”

Both the email and this chance
conversation were about people that
should stop traveling.

They have come to the conclusion
that people have no value.
When they no longer have time
for the daily interviews.
It is time to go home.

There are times also for me
when I do not want to see people.
It more about manners.
A person cuts in line,
or is just naturally rude.
Thailand has a lot of that.
But that is a natural rudeness, and
manners, and part of their culture.
Not a reason to leave.
Avoid yes, but leave no.

But If I do not wish, and will NOT
enter into the interview with another
person than it is time to stop traveling.
People are important and
when they stop being important
than bad things will happen in my life.

To me is the process of becoming jaded.
A hardness is developing.
I see this in myself, and am aware
of that I am becoming Jaded.
For fun I have a section on Jaded comments
and gossip in this newsletter.
It is an acknowledgement to myself and
others that I and the world become
Jaded after awhile, and if nothing
else I should laugh at myself.

I have told numerous other tourist.
“It is the people you will remember the
But when you decided one day
you cannot be bothered with the
INTERVIEW or the people.
It is time to stop traveling.

One of my greatest pleasures
is to meet the new traveler that has just
arrived from the airport. This is
their first day of being a traveler.
They are talking with me and
conducting their first interview.
The look in their eyes is precious.

Just another day in Paradise!
Be a Hobo, and leave your mark.

X was HERE!

Life is good.

As always, these are suggestions. Please realize I am
giving guidance, and there are always other opinions.
“One mans paradise, is another mans hell”
This way we do not all go to the same place.

Article written by Andy the
On year 5 of Hobo trip around the world.
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Read his online story .

Scotts last newsletter is outstanding.
He is not going to be a wanted man.
Dead or alive. He broke the code.
He told his the truth, or his honest opinion.
He is a dangerous man.


“Peanut Gallery”
Fun tips - Here's a little tip from me, to you,
as an experienced traveler.

If in doubt when crossing a road.
Run across.
Minimizes your time in the target zone.



Letters to Editor
This is working great. Got the idiots out of my
email box, and back to talking to themselves.


   ~   HOBO GOSSIP and/or Jaded Remarks

You say,
I say,
Why not?


"Thank you, Lord, for thinkin'
'bout me. I'm alive and doin' fine."
I’m alive and doing fine.‘
Song by: Five Man Electrical Band



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