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ISSUE:  022
DATE:  December 04, 2000
TITLE:  ANDY’S TRAVEL TIPS - Punta Arenas Buenos Aires Dec 3
TIP:  How to make a telephone call? aaagh?:
LOCATION:  Buenos Aires, Argentina

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ANDY’S TRAVEL TIPS - Punta Arenas, Chile
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Volume 1, Issue 22 - Hobotraveler.com December 3, 2000
and my adventures on my trip around the world.

TODAY’S TIP
How to make a telephone call? aaagh?

NEXT issue:
How to make curtains for you room, or covering the windows.

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INTRODUCTION

Hello, I am in Buenos Aires
wooo... lots of time in buses. Potosi, Bolivia
Calama, Santiago Valdivia, Punta Arenas, Chile
Crossed over in to Argentina to Rio Gallegos,
then up the coast to Buenos, Aires. I will go
to Uruguay tomorrow.

I have links to photographs of Penguins, and the Amazon River
below, and of that most dangerous road in the world in
Bolivia, thanks to John.

I thought for fun, I would tell you some thoughts on the 3
current countries. I am getting a little tired of writing, please
send some ideas, or questions.

BOLIVIA:

Lots of Indigenous types. Same as Guatemala, and Ecuador.
Still have the funny hats.

The train from Uyuni, Bolivia to Calama, Chile has NO heat.
You need tons of clothes. 4,500 meter in Uyuni.
Left at 3:00 in the morning. Crazy...

The cocaine selling leaf business, has only existed for the last 30 years,
It is a BUSINESS, and the business is part of their culture...
but not all business is good, and not all culture is good.

Corruption is high, they do not seem to collect the taxes for the
country to have revenue....i.e. corruption

I think the hotels in Bolivia are the same cost as Peru, or more.
After you add on the cost of showers, and anything you want,
they cost the same. 3 dollars USA.

Be careful of the police, they may rob you.

CHILE:

Chile is a cheap country. 5.50 a night for room. or 3000 pesos.
Venezuela is more expensive for rooms.

I had to get them to light the pilot light for shower.
Calama, Valdivia.... . They turn off the gas, and
you can freeze.

It stays light to 9:30 at night. The days are very long in
Punta Arenas

The people south of Valdivia talk a clearer Spanish, then
the people north of Valdivia

Valdivia is full of Germans, or German settlers.

I am in a hostel in Punta Arenas, Chile 20 other people.
November 25 9:12 in the morning. Only me and a Japanese
guy are awake. Hmmm... does that mean something.

There are dandelions in Chile

If it is cheaper to buy socks, then to have them washed. Buy socks

The people in the delicatessen wear face mask for cleanliness in
Chile. Southern part of Chile is more modern than, Argentina, or
maybe more civilized.

All business give you receipts in Chile, Safer for travelers, and
better for the economy of the country. Stops corruption.

Conquistador, and Explorers versus Pirates and Privateers,
Is there a difference, or are they the same.
Why did that guy Simon Bolivar travel to all these countries?

If you want them to make a statue of you,
You have to kill people, or make them worry that you
will kill them.

75 percent of travelers are for the party. It is the
biggest expense of traveling.

Pick a route of what you like.... i.e. party, archeology, nature,
trekking, poverty, ecology, and make a route to these
types of travel locations. Your trip will be better.
I like to see people, and culture, so I stop at lots of small towns.
Do not take someone else's trip, Find out what you like to do?

There a lotteries in all countries, Girls, and alcohol sell in all countries.

The buses in Chile are better then the bus in Argentina, and cheaper.

ARGENTINA:

I do not think Chile or Argentina are good place to learn
Spanish, neither Chile or Argentina pronounce the words clearly,
and completely. Lots of shortened words, and slang.

The have bidet in the bathrooms. Even in the cheap places.
Not always, but a lot.

The sell lots of Antique’s i.e. furniture, etc in Buenos Aires

The guys kiss other guys here, once in a awhile, on introduction.
Strong European influence. What’s up with that?

Buenos Aires sucks for backpackers. You may want to skip it.
Expensive hotels, they are not close together. Could pay a
fortune for taxi’s to be safe. If you are going to pay a taxi,
you might as well stay in a more expensive hotel close to the
bus station. Someone needs to make a good hostel here.

The only country From Mexico to Argentina that you need a
Hostel International card for is Argentina, Maybe 2 nights.
I would not buy a Hostel International member ship to come
to South and Central America. Generally they cost more then
normal hotels in Central and South America.

Do not make fun of the people that take pictures, When you
go home, you will wish you had taken more.

The girls of Colombia are the most beautiful in South America
Venezuela does NOT have good looking girls, some but not the
best, just normal.

I like meat, so Argentina is GREAT. Lots of BEEF.

There is no obvious route, to go from Buenos, Aries to
Uruguay, then Paraguay, then the waterfalls, then Brazil
What is the best options?

Why doe the collect a toll on the road to enter a city?
Is the graft money easier to monitor?

Etc.

People go home, because they do not like the cultures they visit,
and feel more comfortable in their culture. They believe their
culture is better.

“La Buena Vida”

Today's tip.
How to make a Telephone call.....

Table of contents PHOTOS:
http://www.hobotraveler.com/photoscontents.shtml

The trip from Osorno, Chile to Punta, Arenas, Chile
Crossing the border, and entering Argentina to get there.
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov25valpunta.shtml

A sign that every bus needs in ALL countries between Mexico
and Chile. Turn the radio down.
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_turntheradiodown.shtml

Architecture of Punta Arenas, Chile
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov25punta.shtml

Ever wonder why you room smells?
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_bathroomsmells.shtml

Valdivia Chile, Boats, Boardwalk and the Hotel Regional
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov25valdivia.shtml

A couple French Girls, Pay for a shower terms in Bolivia
and some REALLY good photos of the train.
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov25uyuni.shtml

The train between Uyuni, Bolivia and Calama, Chile NO heat...
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov25train.shtml

A couple of pictures of San Pedro de Atacama, Chile
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov25sanpedro.shtml

Bathrooms on the bus in Chile, Why is there no handle?
Seem like a coincidence. But this is VERY normal...
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_bathroombuschile.shtml.shtml

Friends I met in Punta Arenas
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov25oli.shtml


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Some Recommended WebPages on BOLIVIA
“Most Dangerous Road”
Recommended by   John Gospodarek
http://www.topica.com/lists/andy_the Hobo/read/message.html?sort=d&mid=1303350635&start=18#
Thank You John!

http://www.latinwide.com/esmeralda

This is Coroico:
http://www.latinwide.com/esmeralda/coroico.html

This is the road:
http://website.lineone.net/~fototrek/yungas.htm

You can also walk in:
http://home.planetinternet.be/~karel7/Coroico.html

Info on the road:
http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/thorn/repliesflat.pl?Topic=92975

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PENGUINS AND OTHER ASSORTED STUFF:
North of Punta Arenas, Chile

The Graveyard or Cemetery in Punta Arenas
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov27peng01.shtml

Penguins
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov27peng02.shtml
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov27peng03.shtml
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov27peng04.shtml
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov27peng05.shtml

My Photos of the AMAZON
NOT made pretty... Just up, and at ‘em...

http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto01.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto02.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto03.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto04.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto05.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto06.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto08.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylgraham/amazonfoto09.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto10.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto11.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto12.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto13.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto14.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto15.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto16.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto17.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto18.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto19.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto20.shtml
http://members.nbci.com/andylthe Hobo/amazonfoto21.shtml


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I asked the question:
What is that white stuff in my coffee?
http://andylthe Hobo.virtualave.net/machucoffeecolor.shtml
I got an answer...

AKA "Glacial Milk" -- suspended mineral content.
Some Hundred+ y.o. people say that this is good for you...others
say it might give you kidney stones. But does the coffee taste good?
That's what's important, eh?
Life's too short to drink bad coffee (or cheap beer).

Chris Idaho He also threw in some sandboard links:

More Chilean pics at
http://orbita.starmedia.com/~rs_sandboard/Sandboard/galeria4.htm

Huacachina Oasis - Ica, Peru. Peruvian Sandboard Nationals
to be held here on December 28th, 2000. Info at:

http://www.peruboarding.com/Sandboarding/sandboarding.html

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So of you have trouble opening the links.
I recommend you learn to “Cut and Paste”,
So you can place the links in the command line.
I know that with Hotmail, it gives a unavailable message.
This is not true. The links are good,

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LETTER FROM HOME: Friends have sent me group e-mails
while on their exotic adventures.
I receive them for a long time, then one day they stop.
They go home, and return to school, or work.
Please write a short letter describing your home,
and why a person should visit.

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I am NOT a writer? Read this letter... hehehe
I am NOT a Graphics designer? look at my pages...hehehe
I am NOT good at grammar?.....
In the words of Clint Eastwood “A man must know his limitations”
hmmm....Think you could write better than me.
Think you have better ideas. Make less mistakes. Spell better....
PLEASE send me an article. I would love to have help.
ideas. etc. Going broke, but having fun.

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TODAY’S TRAVEL TIP

How to make a telephone call?

Sounds simple, and most people you will meet, will probably
say that this is not a problem.

But if you told someone,
“I will call you Monday, at 2:00”
Could you do it? From South America, or anywhere in the
world.

Directions:

Day 1: Collect time zone information, telephone number, country code
and email them to tell them you are calling.
Find the place to make the call. This sounds funny, but
this will usually take a day.
Read though the list below of considerations.

Day 2: Give up. Email them. No make the call. But do
collect the information the day before. If you really have
to make a call.
aaagh. I hate calling people. Even locally. It is easier to
go home, or walk to their hotel.

THE BEST SYSTEMS:
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CALL
IN ORDER OF PRIORITY:

1. Live in an 100 dollars a night hotel...get connect with the operator.
2. Email them, and have them call you at your hotel.
3. Go to a telephone companies public calling center.
i.e. The telephone company in most Central and South American
cities have buildings, or offices where you can call, and pay after
the call is done.
4. Net2phone.com PAY high tariff, but the call goes through.
The internet cafe has to have a credit card on file, to make these
types of calls.
http://www.net2phone.com/
5. Internet telephone. i.e. Hottelephone.com or dialpad.com
http://www.hottelephone.com/ Europe and USA check you country.
http://www.dialpad.com/
You go to an internet cafe, you put on a headset, and call
Works for the most part, for USA and Europe. some parts of Asia.
Check with
6. Pay telephone with a pre-paid telephone card.
7. Pay telephone with a “Credit Card”
8. Pay telephone with “coins”

THE CHEAPEST

IN THE ORDER OF PRIORITY:
1. Call collect and make you Mom pay for it
2. Internet telephone. i.e. Hottelephone.com or dialpad.com
You go to an internet cafe, you put on a headset, and call
Works for the most part, for USA and Europe. some parts of Asia.
Check with
3. Net2phone.com Pay at the internet cafe.
4. Call, then have them call you back where you are located.
5. Pre-paid credit card, with a pay telephone booth
6. Pay telephone with coins
7. Pay telephone with MasterCard or a credit card.
8. Call collect, then have your Mom make you pay her back.

THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION:

1. 2:00 in you country or mine.
2. AM, or PM.
3. Better to use the 24 hour clock, or 1400 hours. or normal
4. Who is calling who.
5. Country codes.
6. Is there a number to get out of the country.
7. Pay phone, or what.
8. Deposit the coin before, or after you connect
10. How many coins do I need.
11. Getting change in some countries is impossible. In Otavalo
Ecuador, I was saving coins a week, to call Quito.
12. Are you on a cellular pay telephone. If so the call will
cost double.
13. Do you have a dial tone. In Mexico City, I had trouble
getting a dial tone to be able to dial.
14. Just because a person lives in a country, does not mean
they know how to make long distance calls to other countries.
15. Did you make a list of all the telephone numbers you need before
you left. Did you get the COUNTRY CODES?
16. Sometimes the area code is different within the country, then
it is outside the country.
17. Do you have someone with you that speaks the language fluently
to help you talk with the operator.
18. Is there an English speaking, or you native speaking operator available.
19. Do you have a telephone book.
20. If you go to an airport, you can make calls easier than normal places.
21. Do you really have to make that call?...Think about it. Email them...
22. Sometimes if you do not call them girlfriends, or boyfriends they seem
to like you more.. go figure.


TYPES OF TELEPHONES
Cellular
Cable - the normal ground lines
Hotel telephone, get connected with the switchboard
Internet to internet.
Internet to line phone.
Satellite
Pay phone Ground Lines
Pay Phones Cellular type
Pay telephones that take a pre-paid card
Pay telephones that take a Credit Card. i.e. MasterCard.
Telephone Company offices, where you can make a call
Private Offices that allow you to make calls

Telephone Photos:
http://www.hobotraveler.com/alg_nov27telephone.shtml

If you want a couple of great links: MINE
This 2 are all you need. These 2 links have all the ones
below, and lots of other toys.
PLUS.. I will keep updating them
How to communicate:
http://www.hobotraveler.com/communications.shtml
Internet Cafe help:
http://www.hobotraveler.com/1template_email.shtml

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COUNTRY CODES
http://www.countrycodes.com/

TIME ZONES AND TIME LINKS:
http://www.intervisnet.com/        
http://www.worldtime.com/
http://www.worldtime.org/
http://www.worldtimezone.com/
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock
http://time.greenwich2000.com/
http://www.time.gov/


Have fun!

As always, these are suggestions. Please realize I am
giving guidance, and there are always other opinions.
Please send me questions, I will reference you, and
give you credit. Please say “I give you permission,
to use my...name, e-mail, WebPages. etc.”    
http://www.hobotraveler.com/formlettereditor1.php

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TODAY’S TIP FROM THE “Peanut Gallery”
Here's a little tip from me, to you as an experienced
traveler.

“I knew they were still mad about losing the war”
Andy

***** Thanks to Pascal (Belgium)
and Ashley, (USA living in Switzerland, working as dental Hygienist)

NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

To the citizens of the United States of America,

In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA
and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give
notice of the revocation of your independence,
effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
will resume monarchial duties over all states,
commonwealths and other territories.
Except Utah, which she does not fancy.
Your new Prime Minister
(The right honourable Tony Blair, MP, for the 97.85%
of you who have until now been unaware that there
is a world outside your borders)
will appoint a minister for America without the need
for further elections. Congress and the Senate
will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated
next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency,
the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary.
Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide.
You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable le
vels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words
interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know"
is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.
Look up "interspersed".

2. There is no such thing as "US English".
We will let Microsoft know on your behalf.

3. You should learn to distinguish the English
and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast
English actors as the good guys.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem,
"God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task
1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football".
There is only one kind of football.
What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.
The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world
outside your borders may have noticed that no one e
lse plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it,
and should instead play proper football. Initially,
it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game.
Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play
rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not
involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full
kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together
at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons
if they give you any merde. The 98.85% of you who were not aware
that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky.
The Russians have never been the bad guys.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday.
November 8th will be a new national holiday,
but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned.
They are crap and it is for your own good.
When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Warning:
Please do not educate the USA
of possible life outside there border.
They will come and BUY it, and as usual, it is
"For Sale", the want them dollars...

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FUTURE TRAVEL PLANS
I am in Buenos, Aires Argentina. I go across the river to
Uruguay, Then either to Paraguay, or Iguacu Falls, then back
to Rio de Janiero, Brazil for Christmas, then over to Europe.

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Question for readers:
I have a problem.
I would like to walk around cities and,
find the cheapest hotel. The problem is my backpack is too
heavy, and carrying it is not safe. Has anyone got any
hints on where to store a backpack when searching
for a hotel. I am traveling alone,

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http://www.etravelmania.com/

Planeta.com: Eco Travels in the Americas
http://www.planeta.com/

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http://www.luggagesource.com/

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the book with my name 412

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All accommodation in France, from a gite to a chateau.
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Information, accommodation and links for travel in France.
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Accommodation for holidays in France.
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Travel directory for Provence and France.
http://www.goto-provence.com/

Travel directory for Languedoc and France.
http://www.goto-languedoc.com/

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