RJ-45 Connecting to Internet Inside an Internet Cafe

 

RJ-45 Connecting to Internet Inside an Internet Cafe as you travel the world.

My opinion as of January 22, 2004 is that connecting your computer inside an internet cafe is relatively easy, but not because you will know how to connect your computer, but more correctly because the managers and owners of the internet cafe's will know how to connect for you, and perform the connection.

With time and experience you will slowly learn how to connect your computer yourself, or self-service.

WHY I WANT TO CONNECT?

  1. So I do not have to save information on 3.5 floppies and carry to the internet cafe, this would be very helpful when I have over 5 megs of information to upload.
  2. I like to download my e-mails via pop server.
  3. I want to do use auto-updates to my Windows Program.
  4. I want to do auto-update to my Virus program.

WHY I DO NOT WANT TO CONNECT?

  1. When walking into an internet cafe with my laptop I am giving notification to the world that I have a computer, and that they could rob me.
  2. I am worried about allowing people inside the cafe that do not know how to connect to play with my configurations.
  3. If they change the configurations and there is a problem or need to fix my windows software I could spend weeks without a computer.
  4. I am on the other side of the planet, I do not speak the same language and techies are very willing to experiment on my computer and possibly really mess up the computer.
  5. I am connected to their computer and prone to virus and maybe hackers. I am not so worried about the hackers, and believe that is not very likely.
  6. I do not like to just play around with my computer, if I do not, or the manager of the internet cafe does not know how to connect the computer quickly then there is a problem.
  7. It is possible their LAN or Local Area Network has viruses or they could hack into my computer.
  8. I was walking in Mongolia in a snow storm and I was worried about falling and slipping on the ice. This could damage the computer.

REASON I FAILED TO CONNECT?

  1. Manager did not understand how to connect my computer.
  2. The owner or manager refused to let me connect.
  3. I have no idea why it did not work! If I would have known, I would have fixed the problem... hehehe
  4. Sometimes it works on one connection, but not the other. Ulaan Baator, Mongolia.
  5. I asked them if I could connect, if I walk into the internet cafe and show them the computer they will normally allow me to connect.

LOG OF CONNECTIONS: Stopped Logging because it is regular now.

(5) I have connected on a regular basis in internet cafes. If the owner of the cafe does not instantly show you how, go to another internet cafe.

(4 ) Failure - I asked February 4, 2004 in Kathmandu, Nepal to connect my computer.
The would not allow me to connect in their Internet Cafe. No reason given, offered, or even interested in helping.

(3) Success - Connected in Varanasi, India February 1, 2004
Techie walked in and connected.
I am working or doing all this in the desktop area called "Network Connections."
LAN and a BRIDGE
I used the connection wizard as part of Windows XP to create the bridge, then the techie arrive and check and fixed all the auto-connections.
All connections in Bridger were on automatic.
BOTH the LAN and the BRIDGE were ENABLED

(2) FAILURE - IT DID NOT WORK
RJ-45 Connection in Sawegram, India January 22, 2004
I went into the internet cafe at Sewagram and the man working was very helpful.
I did exactly as I did in number (1) in Hospet and it did not work
The man then proceeded to help change my TCP configurations.
We copied the exact number from an existing machine.
The big problem here was he did not speak any English except for maybe numbers. So I could not quiz him like what one was the main server or where did the connection to the internet come into the building. I was already pretty much sure where this was, and know I was on one of the down line cable or trying to connect.

(1)SUCCESS- IT WORKED. Andy January 9, 2004 Hospet, India
I have 2 RJ connections.
I used the large one.
I removed the cable from the back of the computer in the internet cafe.
I plugged it into mine and it worked.
I have Window XP Home Addition
I have and RJ45 connector.
The TCP information was done automatically.
This was done on a dial up connection from a cellular telephone.
There were 5 computer on a local area network.


TELEPHONE LINE - Normal land line with a

PROBLEMS:
1. He did not speak English.
2. He was using Windows 98 on his machined and did not know Windows XP Home Addition.
3. I have 2 what appear to be connections.
     A. Is called or named 1394
     B. Is called or named: Local Area Connection

I was not sure which one to use, and he did not know either.
We did show a connection between the computers on my computer.
I also showed having 2 connections sometimes. I am pretty sure because they was both enabled.

NEED TO TAKE WITH YOU:

  1. Extension Cord
  2. Extension of local country.
  3. Splitter that makes 2 or 3 plug outlet.

TERMS:

Enabled:

Local Area Connection

1394

TCP

 


 

 

 

RJ-45 CONNECTION - Notes from Chris:

You are right about disconnecting the network cable from the CyberCafe
computer and plugging it in the 10/100Mbps LAN ethernet port on your laptop
(RJ-45 connector - looks like a big telephone connector). That's the usual
networking method.

Found this:

"Many cafes will give you instructions for configuring your laptop to their
network, but I recommend having them do it while you watch the first time.
It takes about two minutes to configure and changes do not effect how your
laptop operates when it is not connected to the network. You will have to
change the configuration slightly each time you change cafes, but you don't
change it each time you use the same place, you just walk in and plug in to
the network."

Also found this - I think it's for Windows 98 though:

Ethernet
"To hook up laptops at the Cafe, just mark your TCP driver to "get address
automatically" and you will be assigned a dynamic IP address via DHCP. No
other authentication or Domain userid/password is required. Be careful to
bring a laptop for which you have administrative priveleges to make such a
change--this generally requires the password of an account that is in the
"administrator" group for Windows 2000, XP or NT."

I checked my XP Home desktop system and have had my own experience setting
up the home wireless network here, so nearly all is the same, I guess.

My take right now - this may change as I learn how you can best do this):

I use Windows XP and from the...

START menu button, select
CONNECT TO and then select
SHOW ALL CONNECTIONS and in
NETWORK TASKS set up under either:

CREATE A NEW CONNECTION or
SET UP A HOME OR SMALL OFFICE NETWORK
(both are setup Wizards and seem to me to each cover setup,
but the 2nd looks more specific).

You could hook up to ethernet and go through a Wizard like this and then see
if you are online or ask the cafe to give you instructions/help in doing
this. Online, updating your Virus definitions right off might be best on
someone else's system to keep your data safe.
 

RJ-45 CONNECTION - Notes from persons on Lonely Planet Thorntree

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Pernel S. Thyseldew
'DigThatCrazyFarOutPlanetMan'
"As always, if brutish looking guys with 45's stuffed in their belts show up, it's time to split!"

You will need an Ethernet card - 10/100 would be best. You might also need a transceiver to use 10base2. Not sure why Pernel has suggested a crossover cable - a standard CAT5 cable (with RJ45 plugs) is what you'll need to connect to a hub.

You'll need TCP/IP installed on your laptop. You'll need to know what the settings are for the network you're connecting to - easiest for you if they're using DHCP to allocate addresses, otherwise you'll need to find out what IP setting you need (hint: use one of the other machines as a template). Are they using a proxy server? If so, what's the address (use another machine as a template). You may also need usernames/passwords to get out through the proxy - they'll probably have to supply them.

I would also recommend a personal firewall on your machine.

Andy

A cross-over CAT5 cable and a LAN card, are all the hardware you need, plus windows on each machine.

 


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