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Toxic Shame Cycles

Toxic Shame Cycles
I would be negligent if did not tell a small story about shame while here in the Philippines because shame an inherent part of this culture.

Hiya = Shame Much of what Filipinos do and don't do is motivated by the avoidance of hiya.

Amor proprio = Face Filipinos try very hard to avoid making other people lose face in the slightest.

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Shame accumulates and resides in the subconscious mind.

Example of Toxic Shame Cycle:

1. SHAMEFUL ACTION
A person does something that is socially unacceptable, like beat their wife, commit adultery, get drunk and puke on floor, etc.

2. HIDE FROM FRIENDS
The person who committed the shameful action hides from the his or her friends who witnessed the event.

3. SEGREGATE FRIENDS
The person tries to keep friends who know from those who do not know, so they cannot discuss his or her shameful action the segregate their friendships.

5. THE SHAMEFUL PERSON FORGETS SHAME
After about three months the person slowly forgets, water passes under the bridge, everyone looks the other way and all is forgot, forgiven and life goes on.

6. SHAMEFUL ACTION IS REPEATED
Now that all is safe, the friends get together, the shameful person does the same action again and this will continually repeat.

I have friends that act like jerks, and then proceed to hide from me for about three months.

When the pressure of shame builds up, sometime a person opts to perform a geographic cure, they may move to another location, even a new country because,
“Life would be different if I left the problems that caused this.”

The Philippines is a great place for people who feel great shame, nobody is going to challenge you, ask you to stop, even focus on. There is a gentleman’s agreement,
“I will not talk about you, if you do not talk about me.”

Observe both the Expats and the Filipino people, there is a flame burning under the surface.

MY Niger Shame, - The Shame of Passing Judgment, - Flying Blind with Shame and Pride, - Traveling Without Shame

Toxic Shame Cycles

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Asiabill from United States of America flag has written 253 comments

Well creative adaptation to the traditional explanation of "DOUBLE STANDARDS" prevalent in Catholicism and true to your somewhat frictional way of expressing yourself. Having a conversation about such issues as "TOXIC SHAME" is about as productive and entertaining as conversations about any religion or politics- - BORING! One thing my wife and I have in common is our COMPLETE DISTRUST for ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS and though neither of us find Roman Catholicism worthy of worship I for one LOVE the CATHOLIC CULTURES be they Irish, Polish, French, Italians, Brazilians, Latinos or Filipinos because they are VERY human oriented compared to Protestants who LOVE their pets more than other human beings, LOVE to work, LIVING TO WORK rather than WORKING TO LIVE rather than enjoying the basic PLEASURES IN LIFE! So if such characteristics like SHAME are considered TOXIC then BY ALL MEANS GIMME SOME MORE OF THAT POISON any day of the week but keep those hardworking "HONEST" WASPS away from me.

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I am in Lorton, northern Virginia about 15 minutes from the White House. I migrated to the U.S. in 1968 at the age of 18. Since then I probably visited the Philippines 5 times most of my visits lasting 2-3 weeks at a time. In 1968 the population numbered around 30 million Filipinos. The economy at that was 2nd highest in Asia. I came back for a visit last year 2008 and the population was near 90 million. The economy was the 2nd lowest in Asia! In a very small country like the Philippines, I can not fathom that the Philippines can support 90 million! Why did the government did not see this coming? There was shortaged of rice, the basic staple food. And to think that this country was the one who introduced the "miracle rice" to the world where a farmer can plant rice 3 times as much in a year. Students from neighboring asian countries took note and sent their researchers to University of the Philippines at Los Banos Laguna circa 1960's. Now 40 years later, the Philippines is importing rice from Thailand and Vietnam, the same countries who studied the new miracle rice in the Philippines! I ashame that my country of birth developed and introduced the miracle rice to the world and now importing the same rice what should have been the answer to the rice shortage in the first place. The over-population is eating away precious land for agriculture to be built for housing to accommodate the growing population.

I summed my conclusion to a number of reasons why the Philippines a Catholic country is full of calamities: natural and man-made

1. Over population - this is urgently needed to control ASAP!
2. Allowing poor people to migrate to the cities and built shanties along rivers and anywhere they want to settle. - produces diseases, poverty, etc.
3. Corruption! Corruption! and More Corruption!
4. Crab metallity - jealousy over someone who made it better and pull this person down to their level
5. Does not respect the environment - illegal cutting of trees from the mountain thus landslides burying those same poor people who were allowed to built those shanties near at the foot of mountains.
6. Self interest before others!

I think if the Philippines can overcome the 6 items I discussed, everything else will be taken care of.

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Gadget from United States of America flag has written 831 comments

Danny, how?
Amor proprio
= Face Filipinos try very hard to avoid making other people lose face in the slightest.

Change is difficult when a culture refuses to say,
"You are screwing up."

In Japan, they go home and work all night, here they just get angry, nothing.. and more nothing.

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