90 Percent of Foreigners Marry Bargirls

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90 Percent of Foreigners Marry Bargirls
90 percent of of Foreigners or Expats in the Philippines or Thailand, not the world.

I believe a healthy person studies love. How can I give or receive love unless I understand what love is to me, or better yet, what love is not. I am always happy when a man or woman finds a mate, a companion for life, I am positive man do not care much about the who, when, where, why, what, how, and how much.

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Philippines
Sunday, October 18, 2009

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I have been interviewing people in the Philippines and Thailand for years; I drill my Thailand Girlfriend with the questions. It has become a focal point in our relationship because the people automatically treat her as a prostitute when she is walking with me. She is ashamed to walk with me, it is truly a problem, she refuses to talk to me in general Thai public.

The question comes,
“What percentage of men in Thailand are marrying bargirls?”
If only 10 percent than my girlfriend is paranoid. I believe 98 percent of the foreigners in Thailand marry bargirls.

“What percentage of men in the Philippines marries bargirls?”

There are many scenarios.

1. Girls are and he knows it and married anyway.
2. Do not know and married.
3. Denies he married this type of girl.
4. Does not call a bargirl a “P.”

I interviewed two people from the Philippine, one a women who has lived in the Philippines for about 20 years.

Interview Woman Expat
She says,
“90 percent marry bargirls here in the Philippines.”
I asked,
“How do you know?”

35 Year old Philippines Man
He said,
“90 percent of Foreigners are with bargirls.”

He is the owner of a small canteen, wise, and open to conversations, truly does not hide behind the typical Filipino shame or denial systems. It was a curious conversation with him vacillating between cultures, trying to be western, but then reverting to Filipino.
“How do you know?”

The answer to how you know was the same for both the foreigner Expat woman and the Filipino. They said, you can tell by the way they dress, maybe more lipstick, maybe high heels, etc, however there is some stereotypical view they have of bargirls and the can recognize it when they see. In the end, he said,
“If you want to meet a nice girl, take her to Baguio.”

My Thailand girl invited me to leave the city to talk with her, she was so afraid of her own culture, she knew she must leave here city. I seldom find married couple returning the city of their youth; they more or less need a geographical cure.

Here is a good quotes about Thailand,

“10% farang males marry bargirls and the remaining 90% non-bar girls ??? I don't know where you got that figure from, but it seems like you got your stats back to front. Or maybe its just the social circles I move in ??
- Cognos
Mini Survey Marry Thai Bar Girls

“Could it be White Knight Syndrome? Planeloads of lonely, kind-hearted guys arrive in Thailand each day and there are plenty of damsels apparently in distress to choose from.”
Nice Guys Marry Thai P

"Should Have Told Me”
- rontheneq
Maried to Former P

I am tempted to say that man has an unlimited ability to forgive, however I know I am wrong, I would just be subjugating my morals into all the Expats. In reality, I know, they just do not care, and for many, it is as good as it gets. It is obvious many men divorced their wives and came to Thailand or the Philippines to upgrade who whom they sleep.

I find having friends incredibly difficult in countries where girls are considered trash when they talk to foreigners. It is incredibly difficult to make friends with Thai or Filipino people, the Expats, well they are kind of like the girls they marry.

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Chuck WoW said on Saturday October 17th, 2009 11:30:47 PM

You say most foreigners met their wives in a bar like it is a bad thing .
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Most foreigners met their First wife in a bar.

The difference this time is that he is in love.

CW

hoz said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 04:16:43 AM

I agree with Chuck. Plenty guys meet their women in bars right here in the good ole USA. It's probably the same all around the world.

You do not say it, but your article seems to have give a negative connotation to a "bargirl". What man wouldn't want that girl in the top picture to love him? Just because she has been driven to taking a job as a GRO because of the poor country, economics and trying to support her family , doesn't make her a bad.

That's the thing about your writing that is so exhausting. You hint and tiptoe around BUT YOU DO NOT SAY IT. Are you intentionally vague? Attempting to be artistic? Or do you want to give yourself an out? If you are called out you can flip flop?

hoz said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 04:18:58 AM

I see the Hash House Harriers poster in the background. Were you there to go on a run?

vic said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 06:51:51 AM

Andy,

You're on the mark. Methinks the truth hurts for those married to (former) bargirls. A leopard doesn't change its stripes.

But hey for the guys who marry these women... Don't STOP Believin'.

Based on what I've seen in Thailand and Philippines, these relationships usually end up in divorce.

A good friend married a bargirl. He was under 40, in good shape, faithful, and definitely not like the guys you usually see in the bars. He had a "White Knight Complex" I guess. He did everything for her and her Filipino-Brit son, but it wasn't enough. As soon as she got to the U.S. she stole the "living expense money," gambled most of it away, and had a "baby out of wedlock." Still my friend was too kind-hearted and couldn't put himself up to dumping her. So I bought her a one-way ticket to Manila myself, because she had wrecked my friend's finances to the point where he couldn't put food on the table much less buy a ticket. It is probably the best investment I've made for a friend in my life. The real zinger is a mutual friend told me, he was walking around Angeles City, when he heard his name being called...and guess what-- it was my friend's ex-wife still doing the "P" thing.

I haven't met any woman I'd want to date in these kinds of bars, but when you've been on the road for a while, it is nice to see some tantilizing hot bodies on stage. Just don't forget who you are dealing with, because a bargirl will have your name remembered, and your personality type analyzed. And it says as much about the guys, including myself, who stop in these places, as it does for the women who work there.

John Pedroza said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 08:06:39 AM
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I personally don't understand the logic in this post. Your going to date (and if your lucky) marry the type of people you hang out with. If you don't want to marry a "bargirl" then it seems to me, you shouldn't be hanging out in bars. I guess to me what your really saying is 90 of foreigners hang out in bars. No wonder most girls are embarrased to hang out with foreigners, I wouldn't want to be pegged by society as an outcast. Who wants to be an outcast?

Linda said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 01:02:24 PM
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What's interesting is white women who go to a non-white foreign country and marry locals, who consider a white woman a step up the social ladder. A woman who is seen as unattractive in the States can get married in another culture where your face is less important than your skin color....

Andy HoboTraveler.com said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 03:34:09 PM

John, this post it to give a heads up to people who tell men they can find a wife in Thailand or the Philippines, almost no point in going if you want a non-bar-girl.

John when writing if I derive all the conclusions readers do two things, they do not read and they get very angry. The anger comes because they consider direct comments as insults. You are correct in your deductions.

I am happy, so far people have provoked at me, but nobody has revoke or denied the percentages I have derived.

Hoz said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 04:42:21 PM

Well you sure aren't going to find a "non bar girl" hanging around bars, now are you Andy?

I know many guys from around the world who has found true love in the Philippines. Your "percentages" area gross exaggeration.

Living like you do Andy, just off the bottom in cheap lodging, pinching your pennies, pesos, birr and cedi, posting insulting essays to get your clicks up, I can see why you never meet interesting, well to do people, You don't see them except from afar, and those who do have the misfortune to actually interact with you are probably turned off by your negativity.

Where to find "non bargirl" wife prospects in the Philippines? Shop girls, they have a job and are working to support their extended families. Medical centers, nurses, med students, medical technologists. Business district, secretaries, business owners, entrepreneurs. And let's not forget the Church.

But you have to put in the time and energy to develop a relationship. Hit and run won't work with a good Filipina girl. And hit and run is all you have time for Andy.

Time to load up the packs and head on out to your next "adventure". I doubt the Philippines will even know you're gone.

Claudius said on Sunday October 18th, 2009 10:05:50 PM

What does the word "bad" mean, anyway? Bad according to who's standards? Yes, I understand the concept here, but why are the girs/women 'bad', and the men are even sometimes considered the victims? Is it not the economy and/or circumstances that force the majority of these women to do what is necessary to survive?

Had a few conversations with some of these 'bad' women, and asked why they did what they did. Most common answer was money secondly, they were generally treated as human being with a brain by foreigners, rather than an object to be used and disgarded.

Alex K said on Monday October 19th, 2009 12:35:26 AM

I wish it wasn't true Andy.

I went to Thailand for vacation in April. I did not go to meet bargirls at all but I was surprised by how friendly and beautiful some of them are. Some of them seemed to be just normal gilrs hanging out in the bar but if you think about it, that is highly unlikely a normal Thai girl would be hanging out in a bar frequented by farang. So sad for us and them.

mike said on Monday October 19th, 2009 01:25:47 PM
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WOW! I stumbled upon this website as I innocently googled "traveling hobo" as that is exactly what I am........and this is what I found.

I can't say that this is what I was expecting, and perhaps it's simply poor timing, but I read through the post and comments and I feel compelled to comment as well.

First, I really like the lady in yellow burning a hole through the back of your girlfriend in the first picture. I think I like this lady.

Next, I like the comment about the "white knight" complex. Is there really such a thing for a person who travels to another country searching for true love and companionship?? I believe a true "white knight" would travel off to some third world country stricken by poverty, natural disaster, war, or political turmoil and donate his/her time, expertise, and ability rather than going to a bar, meeting a girl, bringing her home, convincing him/herself that they love each other and that everything is going to end happily ever after. Both scenarios are a bit self fulfilling but one is much more selfish than the other (on both sides of the coin). The way I see it, the bargirl wants a better life and she believes it is possible to find this better life in the arms of a foreigner - and the foreigner wants a wife that his insecurities won't allow him to have back home. Personally, it seems like a good match to me - and if/when things fall apart there shouldn't be much of a surprise.

It seems to me that it's very understandable for the locals to consider girls who talk to foreigners as trash when a significant portion of the foreigners traveling to a place like the Philippines are traveling there for the girls...........PLUS - it's not like this is a difficult situation to overcome - if your intentions are sincere people in these countries do not lack the ability to trust - you just start with the initial handicap of having to earn it.........you are in their land there's no reason that everything or anything should be given to you because you are a foreigner.

Yikes - I better quit preaching to the choir - sometimes I get a little riled up.

arty said on Tuesday October 20th, 2009 03:14:54 AM

Hi Andy
I've been enjoying your blog (thank you) for a few years now and you do have a "thing" about white guys in these countrys. Stay away from the tourist and red light districts (Malate) and your '90' will evaporate.
I think my expat friends and their wives would be insulted with your views of them. The vast majority of filipino woman are morally upright people. Far more so than where we come from.
I've got a suggestion for your next destination. Go back th the Philippines with a homework assignment 1. Meet as many expats as you can and live in their world the whole time you are there. 2. Don't go anywhere near redlight or heavily touristed areas for the duration.
I think it would be great if you conciously challenged your cliches and maybe find out something you didn't know before. I'd look forward to reading about that experience. Mabuhay!

Andy HoboTraveler.com said on Tuesday October 20th, 2009 03:29:27 AM

I tell the truth as I see it, not as you see it, I am not trying to make friends by writing. This is the essential and pivotal problem in the Philippines people have a problem of truth and honesty.