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I've been thinking about this the last month or so. I was originally going to walk part of the way to New York. However I injured my leg and had to have X-Rays to make sure it wasn't broken. So that put a stop to that adventure. When walking I always think about ways to ward off dogs.So I really appreciate the rocks in the sock and back pack as a defensive weapon ideas. For humans the pen idea is a great one to keep in mind,that and a rolled up newspaper. Just hurt them and escape as you say. My other defensive weapon is not looking to well off. Looking poorer then your fellow man might be the best deterrent. On my trip to New York I'm not taking any flashy new back pack on my trip.Just an average two year old day pack.Clothing is just average guy on the street stuff. My phone is a $20 Samsung from Walmart which can easily be replaced for the same amount. And my computer is a Samsung basic pad computer I bought used a few months back. So if it's stolen I can do with out for a while save some money and just replace it again by buying another used Samsung pad computer for $200 as opposed to $350 - $600 for new laptop computer. Most of these tips I have learned from the Master Traveler Andy Graham over the years. *Tips Hat to Andy*. Thank's Andy.

Rich, I wrote Lisa Falour, on here contact link at here website. I was grateful to find this link, strangely many people have Blog, and no way to contact them, but gratefully Lisa Falour does have a contact link.

http://cutecatfaith.com/

Thank you tropicalguide for your primer info.I don't know that much about South America so the information is greatly appreciated. Tho I have made a commitment to myself to start learning to read and write in Spanish and French. Both for travel and for a mental exercise. :-)

I know of one interesting interview Lisa Falour. She is an expat who moved to France over 15 years ago. She makes videos about the reality's of a Expat American Living in French society on her slobomotion youtube channel. She speaks and writes in French,English and German if memory serves. I met Lisa about 3 years ago. She is an Artist and has one of her pieces in the Metropolitan Museum of Art as well as some museums in the EU. She is know as one of the progenitor's of the Fanzine with her Punk Rock Fanzine "Bikini Girl" back in the late 1970's early 80's. You can search under the name bikini girl Lisa Baumgardner (her maiden name). Cutecatfaith on youtube. She's on vacation right now so most of her videos are short 1 - 2 min videos of her travel's around France. She shows you where she is and sometimes narrates. Very unique local's - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCx98dIR87Uandfeature=shareandlist=UUUyGx20J3pnFH8m3eB6wcsw One thing to keep in mind is that it might be a while before she returns emails due to her traveling around the country on vacation at the present.

Central America, close to the USA and Canada, with only Mexico in between, boasts thousands of volunteer opportunities at low or no cost, beware of websites offering 'volunteer opportunties' at $750 a week including room and board, they are middlemen, the world is full of middlemen, who earn a commission and projects that are having difficulty in raising money earn some from unwitting volunteers, so for those coming at least, to Central and South America here is a list of web portals that offer low/no cost volunteer work, after contacting on line several projects in one or two countries you are interested in, travel there and visit in person, try and talk to present and past volunteers there and if you have special skills and able to become conversant in the local language you will earn trust of locals and doors will open for employment as an aid worker or teacher, if you are qualified. From my 'primer for travelers to Central America'

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VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES Many many humanitarian aid organizations exist in Central America and require long or short term volunteers, with or without special skills, all year around..view these non profit portals for no cost or low cost opportunities, contacting yourself any and all organizations you are interested in working with well in advance of your departure.. especially in the developing countries, as a volunteer, long or short term, you'll make valuable and lifelong friendships as well as trusted local contacts which may lead into full time employment in your chosen field locally. Ordinarily you'll have to pay your airfare and room and board to volunteer with many small projects as most have barely enough money to stay above water. Fundraising, a year round effort, often takes up much of paid staffs time and energy! The pro is you will be there in your target country or region and not online behind a computer screen at home! The smiles of a child or family in need we have assisted beats any computer screen or laptop for me by a wide mile! More information view these web portals: http://www.idealist.org/ in several languages. Worldwide 180 countries. http://www.truetravellers.org/ English Worldwide http://www.volunteersouthamerica.net/ English, Spanish Central and South America . Social andamp Environmental Volunteer Exchange Network http://www.the7interchange.com/ English Worldwide http://www.volunteerlatinamerica.com/ English Central and South America.

If traveling to El Salvador , meetup with me and I'll point you in the right direction! For my contact info. message me.

Interviews are fun, especially when the person is like Marc, he was honest, up front, and made it simple. I am still amazed that he was able to find the welders, the tires, and all the things needed to make his kite buggy. Generally putting all that together in a foreign country takes great diligence, and speaks highly of his skills.

If you know a person who has lived outside the USA for over 3 years, then please feel free to click on contact above, and maybe I can interview the person over Skype.com. I have a program that can do this easy, so we do not have to be in the same city or country.
Thanks Andy Graham

Like this interview, keeping it simple, there are dozens of sites, forums and bulletin boards as well as groups for wanna be ex pats and also for first time travelers, one travel forum I will not name, it usually takes a lot of luck or several weeks to get a common sense, simple answer on how to get to and enjoy destination point A in country B region C. Some brave anonynmous nicknamed souls from country ? have even asked me to plan their trip to countries B, D and F in region C. Since advice is cheap and I do not expect even a thank you, rarely get even that after giving advices on forums send them the URL of my 'primer for first time travelers' to region C, which is Central America, take it from there and start learning Spanish. saludos. salut. greetings. http://central-america-forum.com/member-blogs/central-american-travel-primer

Thank you Andy for your assistance. You have been one of the very few out there to support me. Hope to have your favorite Burrito back on line in Panajachel someday. Keep up the good work with your website. It's one of the best ones out there.
Your Friend,
Bill
The Burrito Factory

While were talking polyglot...here is a good video to help learn Chinese. You can learn what some of the basic symbols quicker then you might think. You will see these symbols repeated in the Korean Language as well.

ShaoLan: Learn to read Chinese ... with ease!
http://youtu.be/troxvPRmZm8

Being a polyglot does have it's advantages. I can see how he would be able to almost seamlessly travel from country to country to make a living. Great interview.

We have been running a new project developing organic farming in Nepal. Please visit our web http://volunteerhelpcenter.org

Some times I have to read then re-read a paper like this,before it really sinks into my noggin. I always think about a very learned man from Africa talking about computing at TED. He said we don't think the same as you do. So our approach to computing is different. As American's we have a tendency to approach and solve an issue only from our point of view.The world is a mulch-faceted place Rich with culture and understanding as well as misunderstanding.

"The problem with computers is that there is not enough Africa in them"
Brian Eno 1995 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Eno

"Kwabena Boahen: Making a computer that works like the brain"
http://youtu.be/nyLYQYHGbvI

Thanks,
Rich

Packing is difficult to mess up, because they really do sell things at our final destination. Strange, the only thing I always buy in the USA is underwear and socks, and my shoes, and none were made in the USA.

Packing is fun, and I enjoy the challenge of trying to get people to carry my backpack for me, I strive to never pick up my backpack. That is my long-term goal, to figure how to never pack it, or pick it up, that would be the life of luxury.

Have fun.

Hi... Is this still available?

Thank you Andy and secchanlife, Excellent video.Well thought out and executed. I tend to travel with a bit less. Taking minimum clothing purchased at thrift stores for a dollar or two andand#65279 just discarded as I travel.

My packing is a bit different. However it does fall into the hot climate packing category. I will be on small sound stages for almost two weeks and have to use quick wicking cool comfortable clothing due to the extream heat. The clothing will also will get very dirty and I might have to be throw away after a week or two. So what I do is the following.

Always locate a thrift store via internet in the area I will be traveling, staying to replace clothing at a cheap price if needed.

Packing:

1 - Smallish back pack. Bought at Thrift store for under $6.00,purchased in North Dakota many moons ago.

3 - Shirts, all quick wicking and nice looking as possible. Bought at local thrift stores for under $6.21 total. Under Armor and Adidas. 1- white,1- black and 1- Red.

2 - Pants, all travel light weight. 1 - Khaki Long leg Pants. $5.00 + $10 for hemming = $15.00 1- Dark Khaki almost brown,Columbia clothing, bought over 3 years ago for $30.00, bought before I turned to buying all my clothes only from thrift stores.

1 - Shaving kit, Razor and cheap shaving cream packed in light weight plastic container.

1 - Pair of Merrell brown light weight,tennis shoe type nice looking but almost blown out shoes. Tried and true shoes. Ones you can tell will get you there but will be discarded after. I bought these shoes about a year ago and they have taken me through my travel in all kinds of weather in North Dakota. So almost time to put them out to pasture.

2 - pair of quick wicking and comfortable socks. Ones that can be washed quickly and hung up to dry. Alternating between the two so one is washed and ready to go. This will be my most expensive item for the trip. Costing around $20.00.

3- pair old under ware that can be warn and discarded as I go. I bought a pair of the anti-odor, anti-bacterial under ware at REI ($18) for a trip two years ago to Thailand. The way the Thai people washed clothing wore them out in about two weeks. So I just go with old under ware with holes in them now and just through them away as I go.

Washing - Plastic bag from store and Dr.Bronners soap.

That's about it. I like to travel light and travel cheap.

Best,
Rich

Hi Bill, All great suggestions. I like the pack it and let it sit idea. We always tend to pack more then we need.

I have another suggestion that works for me every time. Pack up at least early a day ahead of time, let it sit.
Come back later an unload and repack.
You will often be surprised at the things you leave out the 2nd time.
You ask yourself "Why did I pack this in there?"
A lot of the things you pack are things that are cheap to buy where you're going and can leave behind when you get ready to come home, this includes clothes.
Another thing you can do is have different size suitcases, backpacks handy. Why?
Try to always leave a little open space available that you will be able to use for those things you get where you're going and want to bring home.

Hi Tropicalguide, Thanks for your suggestions. I'm using a combo of Craigslist,couchsurfing and airbnb to find rooms. I'm trying Andy's suggestion and posting on Craigs list now and also looking on Couchsurfer. Then using Airbnb as a back up. The unfortunate thing is that Grayhound no longer has the Discovery pass. So I'm booking weeks in advance to get the best price. Paying $50 from ATL to New York via Penn Station. Then riding up with a friend to Upper New York State,paying him gas money. Then ridding back with him to NY City and staying there for a month. If I can't find any decent jobs then I will leave NY sooner. Head back to ATL save some money and head up to North Dakota where I can find work very easy. Thanks again for your suggestions. Best, Rich Gedney

I lived in New York City until 1985 when I lost my small rent controlled studio apt at $139 Month to gentrification, due to health issues I was unemployed at the time so had an option to move to first, Mexico City, then Guatemala, to reinvent myself, I went "Way Down South" by Bus from NY, stopping to see my parents along the way, and gave it a try, opened a bank account in the USA, in A Texas Border City, in those days no ATMs down here, and a bank transfer was safest option beside Western Union to transfer money, after 8 months decided to stay, returned to NYC, brought my vehicle from suburbs where it was stored and drove down. Years ago I stayed a few nights in a hostel or in the 34th Street YMCA when in Manhattan, had a place to stay in Long Island, in El Salvador made a friendship with a Salvadoran American Dentist, who had a small apartment in the area in the Bronx where I grew up, he has a common law wife and child here and in exchange for lodging haul up gifts and things on the plane, upon arrival take the NYC Transit, the Subway to the Bronx, it is like I never left when I get on the E or F Train in Queens or take the LIRR from Jamaica to 34th Street in Manhatttan using the shuttle from JFK. I bought my present computer there and love shopping in certain specialty stores, if you use Craigslist or Couchsurfing.org do contact New York City members well in advance and offer to help out with expenses, doing dishes, cleaning up, running errands in emergency, etc. Contrary to "PC" opinion people do not like freeloaders, and if you "party" and come in at 3 am, tell host in advance, Single or Couple of attractive young women traveling together will find it easy to land a host, but take care if it is a young male very eager to host you, arrange to meet in a public place beforehand. Rents are very high in Manhattan $1,500 a month up for a tiny studio, in the Boroughs $1,000 up, many young white 'yuppies' now live in both East and West Harlem above 96th Street, which have been gentrified in spots, I am a New Yorker, street smart and speak several languages, if you are not street smart and have never been to the city, do research on the Internet after you secure a room, the Hostels are great places to meet people from world over but a dorm bed, 6 beds to a room, costs almost $50 a day with taxes. There a few Hotels in the $50-100 night range, ok if staying only 3 days or so. Public Transit goes everywhere 24/7 purchase a Metrocard in machines for $2.50 up, every swipe, subway or bus, costs you $2.25, Yellow taxis in Manhattan very expensive and the car services in the Boroughs as well, about $20 for a 3-4 mile ride and every service person in NYC expects a tip. The city is well policed especially in Manhattan and not dangerous, Times Square has been cleaned up since the 1980s, avoid walking alone after say 11 pm on dark side streets, if you feel in danger and not with a group, like in Latin America, take a taxi or car service that last few dark blocks from Subway or Bus Stop if coming back late night, especially if you have been drinking and are carrying credit card and or cash. that $5-6 may save you $500, NY has a lower crime rate than Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, LA, Cleveland or other USA cities which offer the traveler far less, besides NYC the Best USA Cities to visit in my opinion are Boston, Washington, DC, Charleston, SC, Miami Beach (SOBE South Beach area)FL, New Orleans, Austin, TX, Denver CO, SF Bay Area, CA, Portland, OR and Seattle, WA all have Couchsurfing members in city and suburbs for those with no car or auto rental outside NY and major cities with good public transportation, Greyhound Bus Lines has 7, 15 and 30 Day Ameripasses may be purchased online www.greyhound.com connects with most cities in USA and Canada for guidebooks on busget travel in NY and USA click on http://www.guidegecko.com/new-york-city-low-budget-guide/b,202771,62,0,0,0 and if you cannot luck out with Craigslist or Couchsurfing.org (July and August very difficult, except Miami, the heat)are hostels.com and hostelworld.com.

In many way, the biggest problem of traveling to very expensive cities like New York it everyone tells you going cheap is impossible, because they did not even try to go cheap, they assume they must pay. Enjoy New York, or any destination. Andy

Andy, Can't thank you enough for your advice. I had never thought about telling people what I wanted, I was instead only looking at what they offered.

One of the reason's I want to visit NY is Coney Island. I was camera man on an interview with Amy Nicholson the producer and director of "ZIPPER: Coney Island's Last Wild Ride." Most of Coney Island will be gone in the next few years. Taken over by Walmart,Home Depots and Condos. So I wanted to go and experience the place before most of it disappears. That and attend some BandH Photography Classes and perhaps even find some work on a film crew. *Crosses Fingers*

Again thanks for pointing out options I never would have thought of,another reason why I love being a part of Hobo Traveler Community. By the way when Zipper comes out it's a must see film. Zipper and The Great Chicken Wing Hunt were fan favorites at the ATL Film Festival this year. I have included links for both so fellow members can learn more about these films if they so desire.

MGU Interview: ZIPPER Director Amy Nicholson
Amy spent over 6 years filming Zipper:Coney Islands Last Wild Ride.
http://youtu.be/FgJ_9a9BYag

MGU Interview: The Great Chicken Wing Hunt Director Matt Reynolds
http://youtu.be/77ooRD1ui3c

I was cameraman and editor on both of these shoots.

Best,
Rich Gedney

Thank you Bill99, an excellent example, and much appreciated.

I saw bats the size of rabbits every day in Cairns, Australia.

Thank you, very good.
One of the best travel things I have experienced was in Tokyo. I had a prescription at a particular drug store and was basically lost looking for it as Tokyo even with good maps are extremely confusing (Before Lap tops, tablets).
As I and my wife stood trying to figure out where we were and wanted to go an elderly Japanese gentleman and lady came up to us and in halting but very good English asked if they could help us.
We were a bit surprised but exchanged greetings and the necessary bow and said yes.
He looked at the address on the slip of paper then told us we were about 4 blocks around the corner to our destination.
We thanked him and proceeded to start around the corner. After about 4/5 steps he came up to us again and said "Please let us show you where it is. We will go there with you and if needed help you in the store, etc."
After this was done we invited them to join us for lunch but they had to be somewhere else.
He then gave us his business card, which almost all Japanese carry incl students, trash men, bus drivers, etc. Part of their culture.
He then asked us if we could join them later for dinner. We readily accepted and made the basic arrangements when and where to meet. We became friends.
A fantastic day and fantastic people the Japanese.

Now this is because I have tried to follow the Creed of knowing something about where I visit and to be a good traveler that this took place.

Yes, thanks for the link. Having a virtual assistant is trying, e-mails is difficult, time consuming and if you cannot type, almost impossible. I have started using Elance more, I think I joined 10 years ago, but one must have a way to explain. Tim Ferris made this trendy, but oversold, and under-explained.

Hi Andy,

May I recommend http://www.321showit.com/ it is a free video/voice capturing tool where you can make annotations. When you are done, you get a link that you can paste to your virtual assistant and he can see it. (the tool is only a demo tool, but it is free to use.)

All the best
Chris

I learned a long time ago, less is more. I don't travel to impress anybody so I wear simple clothes any top/bottom matches. I buy clothing that is 60/40 so it dries overnight.

I have Visited Costa Rica , Thailand and the Philippines and I like all 3 places and if I had $1,000 Dollars per month Income then I would be living in one of those 3 countries .

But If I leave the USA then I would have only $575 a month Social Security and that is not enough for my way of life .

I Love Karaoke , The Internet every day and Airconditioning 24/7 every day .

Plus I could NEVER Trust our Government to keep sending Social Security in the future .

If MEDICARE would Pay for our Medicines and Medical care overseas then it would cost the USA LESS than what Medicare pays here in the USA !!

But !! no one in the Whitehouse has enough Common Sense to understand the LOWER Costs for Medical Care for Americans living in other Countries .

At least 50percent to 70percent LESS than it would cost for Doctors and Hospital costs here in our USA .

Very cool video, Andy. Thanks for sharing.

I would like to write about Central America, where I have spent most of the last 26 years, much of it working in Hospitality and Travel, here is a fact sheet on the Beaches of El Salvador, 17 years ago I moved back to El Salvador from Guatemala for personal reasons and there was very little receptive tourism, today all that is changed, El Salvador can even boast its own "Panajachel(A popular ex pat haven and travel destination in Guatemala)by the Sea" El Tunco Beach and finally things are hippong in Colonial Suchitoto, some 48 km. or 31 miles north of the bustling capital city of San Salvadorl where many young ex pats now call home, teaching and working in various fields, from all over the Globe....entonces....now "The Beaches of El Salvador" by Donald Lee




The Beaches of El Salvador.


By Donald Leibowicz in Discover the Undiscovered Central America (Files) · Edit Doc · Delete.

I think you'll agree with me that the beaches in El Salvador are awesome1



I love La Costa del Sol, El Tunco in La Libertad El Salvador, Los Cobanos... I like all them really!



Which one is your favourite?



The beaches in El Salvador are all so so much fun, no matter what you are looking for.





I recently visited Salinitas and El Tunco... wow!! It's so beautiful there, that at times I forgot where I was... In Salinitas visit Beach House and Tourist complex "Pena Salinitas Salinitas" FB page: https://www.facebook.com/PenaAzulLoungeSalinitas?fref=ts E mail direct to owner English/Spanish salinitas.azul@gmail.com English/Spanish



Recommended for small groups, reduced prices for travelers from Monday through Friday, non holiday periods.



El Tunco: http://www.playaeltunco.travel/en.html http://www.surfestravel.com/playaeltunco.html



http://www.surfestravel.com/traveltips.html http://www.elsalvador.travel/en



http://www.surfestravel.com/laguitarra.html http://www.surfestravel.com/horizontes.html



I thought I was on some exotic island but no... I was right in our tiny, little country of El Salvador!






By









Vanessa Henriquez, EBES Editor - Updated: August 29, 2012






What's so great about El Salvador beaches anyway?



YOUR BEACH!



Which is YOUR favourite El Salvador beach?






Tell us about it!






Everything!!





The beaches in La Libertad are considered to be some of the best in the world among surfers!!



And... you can spend a week at the beach without breaking your bank account!






Have a look at some of the amazing and fun things you can do on these beaches...





Surfing: El Salvador beaches are attracting more and more surfers from around the world, yet it's still not crowded at all!



I spent an afternoon watching surfers find the perfect waves, on sunny warm beaches and having a good time with friendly locals without spending a fortune.



Beaches like El Sunzal, El Tunco and others host National and Regional tournaments. El Salvador is really emerging as a "must visit" surfing destination and for good reason!






2011 Update -



ISA Surfing Championship being held in Punta Roca El Salvador!!









Scuba Diving and Snorkelling: White sanded beaches are perfect for diving and snorkeling.



It's such an amazing experience to see rock formations, ship wrecks and the only coral reef in the America's Pacific region!



Los Cóbanos is a favourite place for snorkeling, but... how about diving in some of the crater lakes like Lake Ilopango and Coatepeque?









Fishing: El Salvador's prime coastal fishing waters offer a wide variety of sport fishing adventures for the experienced and less experienced fisher.






Shore, deep water, reef



fishing, try it all, it's all here. There are several catch and release fishing tournaments held in El Salvador.








A very popular tournament is The Presidential Challenge held in Bahia del Sol Hotel and Marina in Costa del Sol.



Kayaking: Another exciting way to explore the beaches, river mouths and bays.



Paddle your way through mangroves at the Jiquilisco and Barra de Santiago bays or the estuary at Costa del Sol.



Kayaking the volcanic crater lakes is also a great experience, but you can also take a boat tour and just sit back, relax and enjoy the beautiful scenery.



You sure end this tour feeling great and invigorated by the surroundings.



You can also do some kayaking at the Royal Decameron Salinitas, it's included as part of your stay.






Where to stay?





The options for accommodation are endless... You can stay at a hostel





http://www.explore-beautiful-el-salvador.com/hostels-in-el-salvador.html



or do you prefer a

beach hotel





http://www.explore-beautiful-el-salvador.com/El-Salvador-beach-hotels.html



or even an

all inclusive resort!











Want to enjoy all the comforts of home? You can also try a beach rental in El Salvador, the prices are very reasonable as well. https://www.facebook.com/PenaAzulLoungeSalinitas?fref=ts salinitas.azul@gmail.com



So just take a break from the hustle and bustle from the city and enjoy a few days at the beach.



And did you know that some of the beaches in El Salvador are a haven for sea turtle nests?



Read about the conservation efforts being put forth to save these wonderful creatures.



Discovering this new destination in Central America is a fascinating experience.



Come and see for yourself why so many people love El Salvador beaches!!



More information on El Salvador Beaches



http://www.wtf-elsalvador.com/ in English/Spanish



http://www.wtf-elsalvador.com/western-beaches





http://www.wtf-elsalvador.com/archives download all 3 issues in pdf format.



http://gocentralamerica.about.com/od/elsalvadorguide/tp/El_Salvador_Beaches.htm





http://www.youmustsee.com/south-america/el-salvador/beaches-el-salvador.html/





http://www.tripwolf.com/en/guide/list/496/El-Salvador?group=3





http://www.tripwolf.com/en/guide/show/670178/El-Salvador/Pacific-coast/West-of-La-Libertad/Playa-El-Tunco plus further information on all Beaches West of La Libertad on this page.



http://www.tripwolf.com/en/guide/list/670157/El-Salvador/Pacific-coast/West-of-La-Libertad?group=7 Hotels and Lodging Places



East of La Libertad



http://www.tripwolf.com/en/guide/show/670224/El-Salvador/Pacific-coast/Playa-El-Cuco





http://www.elsalvador.travel/en/playas-de-la-union/





http://www.beach.com/destinations-el-cuco-el-salvador-vacations





http://www.beach.com/destinations-puerto-de-la-libertad-el-salvador-vacations





http://www.beach.com/destinations-el-sunzal-el-salvador-vacations





http://www.happytellus.com/travelling-to/la-libertad/el-salvador Bus 102 leaves Parque Bolivar Central El Salvador every 10-15 minutes 430 am to 800pm The Express Bus is called 'Via Shell' about 1 hour 60 cents US, also at Paque Bolivar is Microbus 102 A Express that stops in both La Libertad and beyond to El Tunco $1.50 US every 30 minutes from 600am to 815pm both buses also stop opposite Church of La Cieba de Guadelupe on main road to Santa Tecla, 2 km., West of the Feria Zona Rosa and the 102 local stops in Santa Tecla. Surfers with Boards are advised to take Bus 102 non rush hours, best take taxi to Parque bolivar Terminal downtown if carrying a board. From the Airport a taxi to La Libertad Beach/El Tunco 25-40 minutes maximum on well paved Coast highway $25-30 USD, no reliable bus service on this route, no need to go into congested San Salvador. Car Rentals at Airport, Credit Card required

URL https://www.facebook.com/groups/discovercentralamerica/doc/461578573898510/