2008 October 8 Enter Thailand leave Japan I flew from Fukuoka, Japan to Taipei, Taiwan, then transited planes and flew on to Bangkok. I left the Hostel in Japan at 7:30 am and arrived at my room in Bangkok at 6:00 pm.
If I had done the same trip in Japan, it would have cost me 60 US Dollars. Of course, I would not have done it this way; it would have been a series of trains, buses, and subways, making for a horrible first or last impression of a country.
I have been thinking, I am good at math, I speculate the majority of travelers never quite figure out how much a country cost. They just purchase saying to themselves, “I have to buy this.”
Hoz said on Wednesday October 8th, 2008 10:00:00 PM
As many times you have visited Thailand currency xchange there is probably automatic. For a visitor it is harder to make a quick adjustment. I had a hard timein Vietnam, Dong was 14,000 to one dollar.
It is confusing, especially when the money has little value and the numbers are huge. I was in Turkey and the numbers were high, difficult and time to get a calculator.I find a number to use, in Japan roughly 100 Yen equated one dollar, therefore I divide all numbers by 100 and this was the equivalent in Dollars.I was in Indonesia trying to exchange dollar for their currency. The man gave me a calculator. I started laughing, did the calculation a few times just to check it. I did the math in my head and knew it was impossible.He had a calculator that automatically calculated wrong. When I said,"I heard these existed, but I have never seen one. How did you make this calculator work wrong?"I was laughing and he took off running, I was still going to exchange money. I went to another person, the bottom line was all money exchange people are crooks, I assume that, no reason to get angry a them.Truly though, if you cannot do it in your head, get a calculator, if you do not trust them, buy one.
Kyle said on Thursday October 9th, 2008 09:06:00 AM
I'm unfortunately one of those people who is not good at math. When I travel I'm at the mercy of those that I'm doing business with.
Andy,Calculators.I think it's best if they are the dual type; ones that are solar AND have a battery.I don't use mine that much as I also tend to do currency math in my head. What helps me is knowing the 6 denominational values in advance for instance;eg...USD & ArgentinaStart with $1...$1 = 3.23Move the decimal...$10 = 32.3 (one right)$100 = 323. (two right)Using the above, figuring the rest (rounded) is easy...$5 = 16 (half 10)$20 = 64 (double 10)$50 = 160 ($5 & one right)You can do that pretty easy in your head and scribble it down on a cheat sheet. If you check it there's only about a 1% margin of error. Course, you could do 6 queries on xe.com.From the 6 bills you can now estimate any in between numbers fairly quick.Hoz. Vietnam is definitely tough but would be similar except you'd be also sliding a comma(s). Same basic process.1 = 14,000 (16,500 now)10 = 140,000100 = 1,400,0005 = 70,00020 = 280,00050 = 700,000For a $500 ATM tap (where possible) take the $50 value and move the decimal one right.Not anal retentive exact I'll admit but enough to give one a bit of confidence when void of calculator.Andy, do you ever write info on your arms?Eric
Wow, clarity, yes Eric I do write information on my arms. When I am getting of a plane in a country where there is new money.You explained what I do in my head and did not know how to explain.The other day I was entering Japan, I went to money exchange having no desire to exchange money, I just checked the rate. I then remembered how much 300 US Dollars would be in Japananes Yen, I then walked to the ATM machine and took out whatever number they gave me easy.If I remember right, I took out 20,000 Yen this is about 200 US Dollars. I am not anal about this, I was going to get 30,000 however there was a jump to 50,000 and my bank is stopping me at 300 Dollars, so I had to go lower. I find the ATM machine works better when I do what they call a Fast Withdrawal and not trying to select account and exact amount. Plus the machine was confusing in the Japanese language, half this and half that, and not simple.I know I was staying in the city for 8 days, and figured 20 plus dollars per day was a good budget for eight days.I never really think consciously about this math, I just do it and it works, so no reason to fix or be super clear for me. I do not need a calculator.However, if I was in some country like Hoz, the Vietnam country with big numbers, I would write the amounts quickly on my hand or arm. I do not like to pull out a lot of paper when I am in the airport, the world gets too cluttered and too dangerous, I keep it simple.